Here's a more recent podcast interview with Roberts that I recommend, this time with Noah Smith. They range a bit in terms of topics, but always around the climate crisis and what to do about it in some sense or other.
The podcast is posted on Volts, his biweekly newsletter covering the technology, politics, and policy of decarbonization. He started it a year ago when he left the paid world and struck out his own. I'm a subscriber.
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